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We're Ryan, Dan, and Ant, three 20 something lads, from Birkenhead, who love football. 24% of women and 13% of men in England are diagnosed with depression in their lifetime. But men are three times more likely to die from suicide than women. We wanted to know why. Join us every Monday and Friday as we speak to people from the wide world of football, all about Mental Health, in an attempt to learn more about it, and encourage men to feel more comfortable talking about their health and wellbeing, and attempt to remove the stigma that still surrounds the topic.
Episodes
Friday Feb 26, 2021
Friday Feb 26, 2021
You're not fit to Referee!
A study conducted by Dr. Tom Webb, a Senior Lecturer at University of Portsmouth, found that more than nine in 10 referees in England have been verbally abused, with 59.7% experiencing some form of abuse every two games. The research was collated in Dr. Webbs book, Referees, Match Officials & Abuse.
Dr. Webb told BBC sport in November 2020, "Abuse is still a significant issue, probably the biggest in refereeing. Mental health within referees is intrinsically tied to abuse."
Referee abuse is nothing new, but it has perhaps gained new found notoriety in recent weeks following the incident involving Darren Drysdale and Alan Judge. We wanted to take a look at why referee abuse occurs, what are the implications, and what can we do as fans to help improve the situation.
If you enjoy this episode, or any of our other episodes, please pop over to apple podcasts, and give us a rating and a review.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/man-marking/id1506661828
You can find us on Twitter @marking_man and don't forget to use the hashtag #WheresTheTalkingLads
If you have been affected by any of the themes discussed in today's episode, we have listed some organisations below who are there if you need to talk:
Samaritans
Call 116 132 for free
Papyrus UK
Call 0800 068 41 41
CALM ZONE
0800 58 58 58
https://www.thecalmzone.net/help/helpline/
Monday Mar 01, 2021
Monday Mar 01, 2021
Episode 49
Recovering from injury, physically and mentally.
Simon Haworth's scored over 100 goals in a career may that lasted 10 years. His style of play, and likeable personality left an indelible impression on the supporters of the clubs he played for. But a horrific injury during a Nationwide Division 2 match between Brentford and Tranmere Rovers in January 2004, cut Simon's career short.
After being shunned by manager Brian Little, and denied access to the immediate medical attention he required to save his career, Simon walked away from football. What followed was years of anger, and bitter disappointment. Over a decade later, Simon returned to the professional game as a coach under former teammate Micky Mellon at Shrewsbury in 2014. He is now the manager of Northern Premier League side Stalybridge Celtic.
During today's episode, we talk to Simon about losing his father at a young age, recovering from his double leg fracture, and how he overcame the anger that saw him leave professional football.
If you enjoy this episode, or any of our other episodes, please pop over to apple podcasts, and give us a rating and a review.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/man-marking/id1506661828
You can find us on Twitter @marking_man and don't forget to use the hashtag #WheresTheTalkingLads
If you have been affected by any of the themes discussed in today's episode, we have listed some organisations below who are there if you need to talk:
Samaritans
Call 116 132 for free
Papyrus UK
Call 0800 068 41 41
CALM ZONE
0800 58 58 58
https://www.thecalmzone.net/help/helpline/
MIND
0300 123 3393
The Kaleidoscope Plus Group
0800 059 0123
Friday Mar 05, 2021
Friday Mar 05, 2021
Episode 50
It's okay for me not to be okay, but I have to do something about it.
You'll most likely know Ollie Ollerton from his stint as one of the Directing Staff on Channel 4 show, SAS Who Dares Wins. Before that Ollie served for a number of years in the Royal Marines, before leaving to serve as part of the special forces.
His time in the military saw him experience combat scenarios and war zones. But following his departure from special forces, he faced his toughest battle yet. Lacking direction and structure for the first time in his life, Ollie found himself succumbing to alcohol and drug addiction, and falling into depression.
Since that time Ollie has written a number of books, and talked openly about his mental health. Our aim at Man Marking is to demonstrate that no matter how tough the exterior, the man inside can still be suffering, and Ollie is a perfect example of this.
If you enjoy this episode, or any of our other episodes, please pop over to apple podcasts, and give us a rating and a review.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/man-marking/id1506661828
You can find us on Twitter @marking_man and don't forget to use the hashtag #WheresTheTalkingLads
If you have been affected by any of the themes discussed in today's episode, we have listed some organisations below who are there if you need to talk:
Samaritans
Call 116 132 for free
Papyrus UK
Call 0800 068 41 41
CALM ZONE
0800 58 58 58
https://www.thecalmzone.net/help/helpline/
MIND
0300 123 3393
The Kaleidoscope Plus Group
0800 059 0123
Monday Mar 08, 2021
Monday Mar 08, 2021
Episode 51
No matter what situation you’re in, we can always decide how we feel, and how we are going to behave and respond.
Paul McVeigh grew up in Belfast in the late 1970's, early 1980's during the troubles. Passing by soldiers and tanks on his way to school was a regular occurrence. As a teenager, he then found himself at the academy of Tottenham Hotspur, and very quickly in the first team alongside Teddy Sherringham and Jurgen Klinsmann. Paul's professional career last just over 14 years, and saw him make over 300 club appearances, as well as 20 international appearances for Northern Ireland.
In later life he has qualified as a sports psychologist, and now works a keynote speaker. Paul is an avid learner, something he picked up from his Dad. That lust for knowledge taught him from an early age that he has the ability to control how he feels, and how he responds to any given situation. That is the focus of today's interview.
If you take anything from today's episode, it's that everyone should be aiming to be an active participant in deciding how you react to setbacks, and how your feelings impact your mental health.
If you enjoy this episode, or any of our other episodes, please pop over to apple podcasts, and give us a rating and a review.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/man-marking/id1506661828
You can find us on Twitter @marking_man and don't forget to use the hashtag #WheresTheTalkingLads
If you have been affected by any of the themes discussed in today's episode, we have listed some organisations below who are there if you need to talk:
Samaritans
Call 116 132 for free
Papyrus UK
Call 0800 068 41 41
CALM ZONE
0800 58 58 58
https://www.thecalmzone.net/help/helpline/
MIND
0300 123 3393
The Kaleidoscope Plus Group
0800 059 0123
Friday Mar 12, 2021
Friday Mar 12, 2021
During these episodes we will take a look back at examples of mental ill health in football from yesteryear.
There are only six players to have scored more goals across the English and Scottish leagues than Hughie Ferguson, and two of those men are named Dixie Dean and Jimmy Greaves. That should give you some idea of the gravitas of the man who scored the only goal that secured Cardiff City's first and only Fa Cup win.
However, I would imagine that if you picked 100 random football fans from the street, and asked them to tell you who Hughie Ferguson was, you'd be hard pushed to find more than a handful. That possibly has something to do with the fact that in 1930, just three years after that Fa Cup final goal, Hughie was dead.
We are joined today by author Neil Palmer, to discuss the incredible career of Hughie Ferguson, and reflect on the sadness and tragedy of his untimely death. Neil is currently in the process of writing a biography about Hughie, and you can find out more about Neil and the other books he's written by following the link here https://www.amazon.co.uk/Neil-Palmer/e/B004D4J802
If you enjoyed this episode, or any of our other episodes, please pop over to apple podcasts, and give us a rating and a review.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/man-marking/id1506661828
You can find us on Twitter @marking_man and don't forget to use the hashtag #WheresTheTalkingLads
If you have been affected by any of the themes discussed in today's episode, we have listed some organisations below who are there if you need to talk:
Samaritans
Call 116 132 for free
Papyrus UK
Call 0800 068 41 41
CALM ZONE
0800 58 58 58
https://www.thecalmzone.net/help/helpline/
MIND
0300 123 3393
The Kaleidoscope Plus Group
0800 059 0123
Monday Mar 15, 2021
Monday Mar 15, 2021
Episode 52
Addressing the mental health epidemic, and finding better male role models.
Louis Weinstock is a child psychotherapist, and the founder of an app called 'apart of me', designed to help youngsters cope with grief. Steven Chatterton is a filmmaker who recently wrote and directed a film called Adnan, centred around a Syrian refugee who's Mother is suffering from PTSD.
We have an engaging and informative conversation about mental health in young people, mentoring, social media, male communication, and so much more. Louis and Steven both tell us personal stories about a time when suicide has become a part of their life, and how they reacted to those events.
If you enjoy this episode, or any of our other episodes, please pop over to apple podcasts, and give us a rating and a review.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/man-marking/id1506661828
You can find us on Twitter @marking_man and don't forget to use the hashtag #WheresTheTalkingLads
If you have been affected by any of the themes discussed in today's episode, we have listed some organisations below who are there if you need to talk:
Samaritans
Call 116 132 for free
Papyrus UK
Call 0800 068 41 41
CALM ZONE
0800 58 58 58
https://www.thecalmzone.net/help/helpline/
MIND
0300 123 3393
The Kaleidoscope Plus Group
0800 059 0123
Friday Mar 19, 2021
Friday Mar 19, 2021
Episode 53
Once you’ve had an injury, it’s hard to convince a club that you’re going to be of worth to them.
Before Jason Lampkin had even started his GCSE's, Manchester United had paid Tranmere Rovers a fee to take him to their storied and historic academy. By the time Jason was in his late teens he was on the brink of the first team at Aston Villa, having moved there from United a few years earlier.
As a youngster his pace, direct style and finishing had Jason dubbed the new Michael Owen, before his 20th birthday however, his career as a professional footballer was over. A horrific knee injury, followed by 12 months of rejection and abandonment, saw Jason leave Aston Villa with both his career and his mental health in disarray.
In today's episode we get an insight into what can befall a young player beset by injuries, and how damaging that can be to their mental health. We also hear about how Jason recovered from the most difficult period of his young life, including a spell playing football again in New York.
If you enjoy this episode, or any of our other episodes, please pop over to apple podcasts, and give us a rating and a review.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/man-marking/id1506661828
You can find us on Twitter @marking_man and don't forget to use the hashtag #WheresTheTalkingLads
If you have been affected by any of the themes discussed in today's episode, we have listed some organisations below who are there if you need to talk:
Samaritans
Call 116 132 for free
Papyrus UK
Call 0800 068 41 41
CALM ZONE
0800 58 58 58
https://www.thecalmzone.net/help/helpline/
MIND
0300 123 3393
The Kaleidoscope Plus Group
0800 059 0123
https://www.kaleidoscopeplus.org.uk/
Monday Mar 22, 2021
Monday Mar 22, 2021
Episode 54
The power of vulnerability.
Early in the 1990's, Luke Chadwick was plucked from his home in Cambridge, and inducted into the world famous Manchester United academy. His peers in the youth team included Darren Fletcher, John O'Shea, Danny Pugh, and Kieran Richardson. Following a successful loan spell at Royal Antwerp, Luke was brought into the first team picture, eventually making his premiership debut in November 2000 in a 2-1 win against Middlesborough, replacing Dwight Yorke as a substitute.
Luke was a part of the United first team until 2004, when he moved to West Ham United. Over the next 12 years Luke would go on to play over 500 games as a professional, across the top five divisions of English football.
In May of last year, Luke spoke publicly for the first time about the abuse he had received for his appearance as a young footballer, and the impact it had on his mental health. Following the tweet that prompted Luke's admission, Gary Lineker publicly apologised for his role in the abuse Luke suffered, when Gary was part of a programme called 'They think it's all over', alongside Nick Hancock.
We spoke to Luke about his time at Manchester United, the insecurities and anxieties he suffered as a result of the abuse, how he learnt to harness the power of vulnerability, and the work he is now doing with The Football Fun Factory.
To find out more about The Football Fun Factory, head to their website:
https://www.thefootballfunfactory.co.uk/
If you enjoy this episode, or any of our other episodes, please pop over to apple podcasts, and give us a rating and a review.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/man-marking/id1506661828
You can find us on Twitter @marking_man and don't forget to use the hashtag #WheresTheTalkingLads
If you have been affected by any of the themes discussed in today's episode, we have listed some organisations below who are there if you need to talk:
Samaritans
Call 116 132 for free
Papyrus UK
Call 0800 068 41 41
CALM ZONE
0800 58 58 58
https://www.thecalmzone.net/help/helpline/
MIND
0300 123 3393
The Kaleidoscope Plus Group
0800 059 0123
Friday Mar 26, 2021
Friday Mar 26, 2021
Misplaced masculinity, noisy minority, or misunderstood?
Today we're joined by The Guardian journalist, Barney Ronay, to discuss themes he wrote about in his article from October 2019, entitled 'England right to call out racism but noisy minority is sending a different message'
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/oct/14/england-racism-euro-qualifiers-barney-ronay
Why do England fans garner such an uncomfortable reputation abroad? Does their behaviour discourage women and children from attending? Is it a masculinity issue?
There is no doubt that over the past five years, the behaviour of a certain section of England fans has raised red flags about football hooliganism. Behaviour we thought had been consigned to history has reared its ugly head again in cities such as Lille, Marseille, Prague, and Amsterdam. We ask Barney about how big the problem is, where it's come from, and what it means for the future of following England abroad.
If you enjoy this episode, or any of our other episodes, please pop over to apple podcasts, and give us a rating and a review.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/man-marking/id1506661828
You can find us on Twitter @marking_man and don't forget to use the hashtag #WheresTheTalkingLads
If you have been affected by any of the themes discussed in today's episode, we have listed some organisations below who are there if you need to talk:
Samaritans
Call 116 132 for free
Papyrus UK
Call 0800 068 41 41
CALM ZONE
0800 58 58 58
Monday Mar 29, 2021
Monday Mar 29, 2021
Episode 55
Understanding the behaviours of elite athletes.
Dan Abrahams has an impressive resume. He has worked with Eddie Howe at Bournemouth, Eddie Jones at England Rugby, as well as providing sports psychology services to footballers including Richard Keogh, and Yannick Bolasie. His career as a sports psychologist stemmed from his time as a professional golfer. The solitude of an individual sport allowed him a unique insight into the thinking required to become an elite athlete. Since that time, Dan has gone on to become one of the most renowned sports psychologists working in professional sport.
Here at Man Marking, we had long wished to speak to a sports psychologist. The position, whilst commonly accepted as an integral part of modern day sporting environments, is still one that is shrouded in mystery to most fans. We were curious to find out what exactly a sports psychologist did, how much of an impact they could have on a sportsperson or a team, and how their work improving mental performance crossed over with mental wellbeing.
We couldn't have chosen a better person to speak to than Dan. Not only extremely well qualified, and with a broad range of experiences in various sporting environments, Dan has an ability to articulate the knowledge he has acquired in his field into terms a layperson can easily understand.
So grab yourself a seat, plug in, and enjoy, we promise you won't be disappointed.
If you enjoy this episode, or any of our other episodes, please pop over to apple podcasts, and give us a rating and a review.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/man-marking/id1506661828
You can find us on Twitter @marking_man and don't forget to use the hashtag #WheresTheTalkingLads
If you have been affected by any of the themes discussed in today's episode, we have listed some organisations below who are there if you need to talk:
Samaritans
Call 116 132 for free
Papyrus UK
Call 0800 068 41 41
CALM ZONE
0800 58 58 58
https://www.thecalmzone.net/help/helpline/
MIND
0300 123 3393
The Kaleidoscope Plus Group
0800 059 0123